Stevie Ray Vaughan: It's Star Time!
from Guitar World Vol., No. 6, November 1985 (Cover Story)

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SRV and guitars Stevie's been in the spotlight
so long now, he's just
beginning to realize —
with the help of Clapton,
Townshend and Albert
King — that everybody's
eyes are on him.

by Bruce Nixon

SOMETHING WAS UP. Stevie Ray Vaughan looked like the cat that swallowed the canary. He had plenty of reason to be pleased, of course: a few weeks earlier, Vaughan and his band, Double Trouble, had recieved their first Grammy (in the ethnic music category, for some tunes on a Montreux Jazz Festival blues anthology), capping a year in which they'd won a number of other industry awards. After seeing their first two albums climb into the upper reaches of the charts, they'd toured widely at home and abroad, and were, at that moment, in the midst of finishing up work on their third record, Soul to Soul.

But something more than a year of new triumphs and successes was on Stevie Ray's mind, and he was being deliberately and playfully vague. Nothing arouses the curiosity faster than that. He positively seemed to glow.

Was he born again?

"Something like that." There was the faint wisp of a knowing smile under the broad brimmed hat. It was a white hat too — not the black Man With No Name hat that's become a trademark of sorts.

Quit drinking and smoking?

He held up his glass, "No."

Make up with his wife and family over something?

"That's part of it."

Vaughan grinned mischievously, and talk moved in other directions. He was sitting in the dim corner of a lounge in a pleasant North Dallas hotel, waiting to leave for the studio where Soul to Soul was coming down the home stretch. A little later the rest of the band came down — drummer Chris Layton and bassist Tommy Shannon, an alumnus of the old Johnny Winter band of the sixties — and they clearly possessed something of the same glow. Was it contagious?

"Yeah, some big changes have taken place. I haven't resolved all my problems," Vaughan finally explained, "but I'm working on it. I can see the problems, at least, and that takes a lot of the pressure off. I've been running from myself too long, and now I feel like I'm walking with myself."

During the course of a long conversation, there had been hints of friction in his organization, a sense of the many unpredictable pressures that had been placed on the band, but Vaughan was referring to something else entirely. There's sometime been a feeling, yes, that Stevie Ray Vaughan was uncomfortable with his success, perhaps a bit bewildered by it — why should fate tap him, a humble blues guitarist? — or, at least, he was not totally prepared for it's accompanying responsibilities. He was confused by the people that were drawn to him because of his success and not because of him or what is in his music. Despite all that's happened to him in the past two years or so, Vaughan possesses not so much as the slightest aura of rock stardom. He seems very much the hardworking club player he used to be, friendly, modest, down-to-earth. He chuckled at the memory of playing Austin clubs years ago, making a few dollars for the night and then borrowing money from the bartender to cover the bar tab — he laughed remembering that $1.36 was the least he'd ever earned from a paying gig. But now, the success is there just the same, and at some point, he finally began to reach an understanding of it all. He's getting used to the attention, the stargazers and the paparazzi.

Vaughan remained vague about some of the particulars — it was an element of privacy he seemed to be reserving for himself — although he was quite amiable, and talked at great length about his current album and about some of his plans for the immediate future. He was very excited about the new Lonny Mack album, just about to hit the streets the time of the interview, an album which he co-produced in Austin last year, and on which he played. He'd picked up a few important lessons in life from the veteran guitarist: Mack, of course, has seen it all and done it all in his long career, and lived with success and without it, and he still plays up a storm. "He's getting younger all the time, too," Stevie Ray chuckled. "I swear he is. Look at him reeeal close."

He smiled: "I sat down and talked to the man, and he's one of the men who will sit down and talk to you, too. And thank God for that! He's a wonderful cat. He opened my eyes to a lot of things."

While Double Trouble was touring in Australia recently, the band crossed paths with Eric Clapton, another player whose work reflects very personal, quest-like grapplings with the accouterments of success. "He didn't tell me what to do," Vaughan said. "He told me how it had been for him." Afterwards, Clapton and Vaughan had holed up in a hotel room for a few hours, talking about success and it's pitfalls. Vaughan didn't want to elaborate on exactly what was said, but it was clear that Clapton's wisdom involved star qualities that Stevie had to acknowledge in order to deal with them.

"Then, we were working with Albert King, and he came up to me, and he said, 'Man, we got to sit down and have a little heart-to-heart.' You sit down like that with Albert King and you grow."

And Vaughan remembered something that came from Johnny Winter, who'd preceded him down the long path, the first white Texas blues guitar hero.

"He said something to me when the first record was doing so well," he recalled. "It made me feel a lot of respect for what we did, for the music. He said that he wanted me to know that people like Muddy Waters and the cats who started it all really had respect for what we're doing because it made people respect them. We're not taking credit for the music. We're trying to give it back."

A few weeks later, when I talked to Vaughan again, he elaborated on his relationship with Albert King. It was almost midnight, a warm Dallas spring night, and we were driving across the northwest part of the city looking for hamburgers while rough mixes of the new album played on the tape deck. "Albert calls me his godson," Vaughan said. "He'll look at you and talk to you, that's the thing. He's pleased with what we've done, and he explained some simple things — don't get high when you're workin 'cause you're having too much fun and you don't see the people fuckin' you around. Have fun — that's great — but pay attention. That happened when things were happening so fast, and it was real important to hear that kind of stuff. He knows. He's been through it. You wake up one day back in the clubs without a whole lot to show for what you've been through."

Sitting in the car, while a waitress brought trays of burgers and beer — an old Texas all-night drive-in, the only thing left open — Vaughan added that he planned to produce a new album for Albert King on the recently reactivated Blue Note label, and that they hoped to cut it in Austin. Talk turned back to Lonny Mack. "He's something between a daddy and a brother," Vaughan explained. "When he sees something that needs to be talked about, he'll talk. He understands. He's deep, real deep, and a warm kind of deep. He wanted to produce us a couple, three years ago, but it didn't happen then, of course, and things have just worked out like they have. The way I look at it, we're just giving back to him what he did for all of us. It wasn't a case of me doing something for him — it was me getting a chance to work with him.

"You know," he added, "the way people come into your life when you need them, it's wonderful and it happens in so many ways. It's like having an angel. Somebody comes along and helps you get right."


"We're not taking
credit for the
music of Muddy
and the cats who
started it all.
We're trying to
give it back."


Continued in part two...


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